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NE5534 IN CAYIN CDT-15A 迷人之聲

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viewer 發表於 2008-8-29 23:59:17 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
hI THE OWERS OF CAYIN CDT-15A, SPARK CDT-15A AND CD22,

今天我把4粒單声道 OPA NE5534 REPLACED THE OPA 627BP(4 PICS)
VERY 震 撼 THAT THE SOUND OF NE5534 MUCH BETTER THAN OPA627 ON 人聲及真 AND CLEAR.
WHY WHY WHY ???????????????
BUT IT IS THE FACTS
SUGGEST TO TRY.
ONLY $20 FOR NE5534 (4 PiCS)


THANKS FOR SHARING.
accphoto 發表於 2008-8-30 00:10:38 | 顯示全部樓層
Ha ha, must be something wrong, Are you using old Ne5534? the sound is mich more analog from my experience.
DUALXEON 發表於 2008-8-30 00:54:54 | 顯示全部樓層

Re: NE5534 IN CAYIN CDT-15A 迷人之聲

Viewer

I agree.
alfcat 發表於 2008-8-30 09:21:29 | 顯示全部樓層
Dear all,

我未賣 CDT-17A之前也想過換了部機內的OPAMPs. 但後來都係決定換CD機.

剛剛買了幾條古河的電源及喇叭線. 今日又有東西玩了.

CAT
alfcat 發表於 2008-8-30 15:34:53 | 顯示全部樓層
Dear Accphoto,

You mean the NEW NE 5534 no good at all? How to define "Old" ones? Produced before dd/mm/yyyy?

I think I have two NE 5534 too .... just can't remember where I put them. Bought them last year.

CAT
DUALXEON 發表於 2008-8-30 16:01:20 | 顯示全部樓層
Cat sir

Accphone said whatever NE 5534 new and old Produced no good at all compare to 627.
harrypoon 發表於 2008-8-30 17:08:51 | 顯示全部樓層
Cat Sir,

Your 古河的電源及喇叭線, you 買 or DIY ?  Look forward to hearing your audition comments.
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2008-8-30 19:06:21 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi,

today i buy some big S NE5534 the great sound of 5534.
I will report its result later.
year 88, 89 made.

thanks.
alfcat 發表於 2008-8-30 20:50:06 | 顯示全部樓層
Dear hpn,

古河 Speaker Cable 同電源線都是從 Hi Fi Fever 代購的.

Modi Sir 真是無介紹錯. 我今日只有時間做 Speaker Cables. 但兩條線的表現真是很滿意. 只是幾十元一呎, 但女人聲真是好好聽 !!

CAT
accphoto 發表於 2008-8-30 23:21:17 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi NE5534 made in 88.89 is very analog sound. There is a batch number on the IC and you can see the manufacturing batch. i just got a batch of 10 NE5534 from 83, and currently cloning a MBL 6010. The sound of this NE5534 sound like some tube amp.......
accphoto 發表於 2008-8-30 23:22:55 | 顯示全部樓層
古河 power cable is very good, cna KO power cable of many thousand dollars. For speaker cable, I do not have experience on it.
accphoto 發表於 2008-8-30 23:24:53 | 顯示全部樓層
However, NE5534 has a problem of lacking real dynamic when compare to 627. If you found NE5534 sound good, it may means that some elements in your system sound thin. Sorry to put that comments but that is my experience.
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2008-8-30 23:37:41 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi. accphoto,

I total agreed with you comment.
I put 4 pics 大S NE5534 in my cdt-15a. sound is more sweet, natural and smooth. 女聲之尾圓滑, like the 歌者 in front of you.  That is my tea.
Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all  大S NE5534 are match code, number and date.
I think 5534 if for tube and LP.
It used in cd system, it can made  the 數碼聲变得 like LP sound. but have cd's 3d and slient background.
just my feeling.

any c hing can give any comment.
Thanks.
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2008-8-30 23:43:40 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi. accphoto,

you say is correct.
anyway, my cup of tea is  listen real sound not only dynamic.

finial i found my wish.
enjoy listening.
Thanks.
alfcat 發表於 2008-8-31 09:45:14 | 顯示全部樓層
I finally did the Power Cable last night. Connect it to the CEC CD transport. So far, the impression is not as good as the speaker cable.
For the speaker cables, once I connect them and turn the system on, I can hear more CLEAR and DETAILED sound. Some "hidden" instruments in the past now surface and then I know they exist.

For the power cable, the sound becomes blur instead. I think the cable has to be run in before it can produce good sound.

終於做了第一條電源線. 後果沒有喇叭線那麼明顯. 換了喇叭線後, 聲音清晰了, 細緻了. 有一些以前唔明顯的樂器現在聽得多了.

但換了電源線後,聲音相反變得"蒙"了. 我相信條線要煲一陣先會好聲.

CAT
harrypoon 發表於 2008-8-31 11:12:10 | 顯示全部樓層
Which 古河 power cable you are using - the dark brown one?  Do you also use 古河 plugs.
accphoto 發表於 2008-8-31 12:26:39 | 顯示全部樓層
Cat Sirs,

For the power cable, that should not be the case, I am using 古河 power cable in every single device in my system. Check the phase, may be it is the phase is inverted.
harrypoon 發表於 2008-8-31 15:13:26 | 顯示全部樓層
Will it be also due to different grades of the cable and/or plugs?  

When compared to the demo NBS cable that hifi fever used, 古河 cable did sound less bright and clear.  It was softer, and could be more comfortable for longer time listening.
alfcat 發表於 2008-8-31 16:35:02 | 顯示全部樓層
Dear Accphoto,

The phase should be OKAY. I use Furutech KI 11M plugs. The color for different wires are different. And, they were properly labelled "L", "N" and "E" or so.

I have no idea why this happened. I will leave the cable run in for a couple of days and see how it turns up compare with my previous one. I WAS using Denko AV grade power cables. I "think" they are around $ 40 / ft.
The one I just got is Furutech 3TS 20.

I double checked the DIRECTION of flow as well.

CAT
accphoto 發表於 2008-8-31 17:57:54 | 顯示全部樓層
I do not mean the wire check the phase in your home instead.
alfcat 發表於 2008-8-31 19:19:15 | 顯示全部樓層
Is there any way to check the phase EXCEPT opening up the plug?

There used to be those "testing pen" which you insert into the LIVE will give a glow .... I think those are no longer available.

Any other good and SAFE method?
accphoto 發表於 2008-9-1 10:33:28 | 顯示全部樓層
Modi should have teach you how to test the phase at home during the cable course. Did you take the course ?
alfcat 發表於 2008-9-1 11:35:48 | 顯示全部樓層
Dear Accphoto,

I turn the CD on for over 12 hours. Later last night, I switched off the air conditioner and run the system again at 10:30pm

This time, the true result reveals.....

With Furutech Power Cable, I am able to get further extensions in High Frequency and Bass. The instruments become more precise and accurate.

I think I MUST be too tired on Friday night or so .... my ears gone to sleep and being not that sensitive.

Conclusion: With the Furutech Speaker and Power Cables, I am able to get more DETAIALS, the music is more OPEN and the ECHO is much better.

CAT
accphoto 發表於 2008-9-1 13:10:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Sometimes it happens......
alfcat 發表於 2008-9-2 12:58:47 | 顯示全部樓層
不過終於都得回應有的效益 .... 總算有安慰
harrypoon 發表於 2008-9-2 14:42:30 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi accphoto,

I noted there are 3 types of Furutech power cable, see below link.  Do you have the chance of using all 3 types in your system.

http://www.furutech.com/new1/index.asp?Area=TAIWAN
alfcat 發表於 2008-9-2 15:18:53 | 顯示全部樓層
Dear hpn,

I have 3TS20 and 314Ag. Still testing them out.

But compared with my original Denko AV cable (around $ 40 / ft.), it is much much better.

CAT
harrypoon 發表於 2008-9-2 15:28:00 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi Cat sir,

I believe better than your original Denko AV cable is expected - because both Furutech cables should be more expensive.  

Which one is more expensive - 3TS20 or 314Ag?  Look forward to hearing your testing findings.
alfcat 發表於 2008-9-2 22:07:53 | 顯示全部樓層
Dear hpn,

The 3TS20 is far more expensive than the 314Ag. From my point of view, the 314Ag is a better bargain. I am not saying that 3TS20 is no good but value for money sense, the 314Ag is a better bargain.

Second point I would like to make. When you go for the Furutech plugs, I would suggest you to go for the FI 11 (USA plug). I don't recall the equivalent for the 13A. This plug costs around HK$ 3xx but its construction is VERY solid and easily done compared with lower price Furutech ones.

My preliminery test so far --- Bass is more "realistic" and "punchy". Further extension in both high freq. and lower freq.

CAT
accphoto 發表於 2008-9-3 23:33:20 | 顯示全部樓層
3TS20 is a much better cable. 一分錢,一分貨,無死錯人。
alfcat 發表於 2008-9-4 10:29:24 | 顯示全部樓層
ha..ha.. Yes, 3TS20 is a better one and is much thicker.

That is a problem with my setup. All my components are put inside a shelf. Unfortunately, the hole drilled was too small to fit in lots of Power and Signal cables with the size of the 3TS20. For some, I have to go for thinner cables / wires.

CAT
harrypoon 發表於 2008-9-4 22:29:24 | 顯示全部樓層
more money, better quality and/or results - is true nearly most of the time in hifi
accphoto 發表於 2008-9-4 23:06:18 | 顯示全部樓層
But the effect you gain is not proportional to the money you paid.....
alfcat 發表於 2008-9-5 09:42:05 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi Fi got some resemblance with computer cpu. The higher the price, often, the faster the speed. But 10% increase in speed often cost you 30% increase in price.

One more thing these two toys have in common --- you will be SATURATED with the effects very soon. Then, you want to upgrade or change something .... and that COST YOU MONEY   .....  both are 無底深潭

CAT
accphoto 發表於 2008-9-5 11:11:27 | 顯示全部樓層
哈哈,年紀大左,耳朵不靈,唔駛 upgrade....
harrypoon 發表於 2008-9-5 15:44:48 | 顯示全部樓層
哈哈哈哈,could be the other way round, 年紀大左,耳朵不靈,駛 more money in order to have "feelable" upgrade....
alfcat 發表於 2008-9-5 16:43:57 | 顯示全部樓層
Dear hpn,

Overall speaking, the investment in the Speaker and Power Cables from Furutech is, I would consider, a good investment.

First, they are not very expensive. To me, the investment is just around 10% of all my equipment cost.

Second, they last. The plugs can last for a long period of time.

Third, the difference is significant. You can really tell the difference. I was using M.I.T. speaker cables and Denko power cables. I won't go back to them anymore.

CAT
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2008-9-5 17:22:13 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi,

i agreed with the comment of this web site:


http://prbstech.myweb.hinet.net/Pre/OP-part5/Epre-1.htm


Thanks for sharing
harrypoon 發表於 2008-9-5 19:13:45 | 顯示全部樓層
Cat sir,

By the way, to me, another incentive for turning to cables is they won't take up too much space.  Space is the major reason that is holding me back from DIY more amps.
alfcat 發表於 2008-9-5 19:24:12 | 顯示全部樓層
Well, you can try following my practice .. ha..ha..

I will sell out my excess stock, amp., pre-amp., speakers, etc. In this way, I can always keep my space sufficient.

CAT
dynamicdog 發表於 2008-9-15 02:22:58 | 顯示全部樓層

Re: NE5534 IN CAYIN CDT-15A 迷人之聲

[quote:b89ccdb6e1="viewer"]hI THE OWERS OF CAYIN CDT-15A, SPARK CDT-15A AND CD22,

今天我把4粒單声道 OPA NE5534 REPLACED THE OPA 627BP(4 PICS)
VERY 震 撼 THAT THE SOUND OF NE5534 MUCH BETTER THAN OPA627 ON 人聲及真 AND CLEAR.
WHY WHY WHY ???????????????
BUT IT IS THE FACTS
SUGGEST TO TRY.
ONLY $20 FOR NE5534 (4 PiCS)


THANKS FOR SHARING.[/quote]

有好多OP AMP 比 NE5534 還要差

你$20買4粒NE5534
咁你用幾多錢買4粒OPA627BP?
schmike 發表於 2008-9-17 07:03:49 | 顯示全部樓層
NE5534係數字上係會輸俾OPA627
但係bb出既野多數係數字上準及low noise
如果你聽真detail係OPA627既
但係其他廠如AD同NE呢D係人聲方面比較厚~~
但係個速度就唔及BB出既快~~
所以各有各玩
小弟用好多錢買過幾隻OPA627(因為小弟自己整既係用8隻OPA)
但係最後都係用返晒AD847
一隻OPA627可以買到兩隻AD847
但係玩膽既話人聲薄左就無意思~~
係咪~~~HEHEH~~~~
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2008-9-22 21:07:23 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi MHZS CD33,66&88 OWNERS,

i ALSO REPLACED MY MHZS CD33 TO NE5534 FROM OPA 627AM THE RESULT IS THE FOLLOW:
PHOTO IS ENCLOSED.

VOICE: BIG S 5534 KO 627AM
DETAIL: 95% TO 627AM
3D: 5534 WIN 627AM

THANKS FOR SHARING.

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accphoto 發表於 2008-9-22 22:54:03 | 顯示全部樓層
哦使唔使咁激。
alfcat 發表於 2008-9-23 13:53:38 | 顯示全部樓層
Accphoto 兄,

Viewer 兄是喜歡用貴料落去做DIY的 ...哈哈

CAT
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