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opa 627bp in MHZS cd33

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51#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-25 14:04:34 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

Thank you so much.
I will try it.


Thanks.
52#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-25 14:11:43 | 顯示全部樓層
hi superwhite,

I have suggection to you on your cdp photo enclosed which point out e-cap.
I changed it to Black Gate Stand e-cap. the sound have improved

It you changed it to Black Gate Non-polar e-cap same uf same valtage, that the sound will be more improved. but the costs will be higher than balck gate standard e-cap more.

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53#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-25 14:28:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

Vishay is belong Philip now.
Black Gate is the best e-cap in the world, go-ahead to change Black gate even standard serise should be better that vishay te serise. Just the price is higher that others. Same as Jensen and M-cap.

Just my view.

Thanks.
54#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-25 14:51:00 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

I do't understand that if you want warm and sweet sound,why you used M-cap. Its sound is face to clear ,  bass not the best. In my view I will prefer use Jensen pure copper foil cap.

do you agreed??????

Thanks.
55#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-25 15:12:51 | 顯示全部樓層
superwhite,

since then, no need to change to audionote. because it is expensive than Jensen but not same to jensen. don't waste money.
If present upgrade is suitable for you. Enjoy the music la !!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Thanks.
56#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-25 17:55:56 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

$230.00 each in authorised dealer.
57#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-26 18:54:11 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

I have used SCR Solen and  ERO MKP 1845
SCR solen quit balance.
ERO MKP 1845 bass ,high notes are little  clear than solen SCR
old solen don't use.
ERO MKP 1845 have green and blue colour. Blue is better than green on high notes (smooth)
Your present CDP is using SCR SOLEN or SOLEN ???????
I thing the solen caps in your cpd not real good.


Thanks,
58#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-26 19:02:00 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

refer to you cpd photo, the outup cap changed e-cap Elna slim grade.
Why? flim cap alway better than e-cap very much.
I really don't understand.
I have suggection to you:

replace the all the caps to SCR SOLEN low cost and high gain.
If you want the high notes better. can add Wima Black Box 0.01uf/400v or 0.1uf/400v on SCR Solen. the result will give you suprise.
If you use ERO MKP 1845 cap no need to add other cap on it.
You cdp's caps are old solen.
just my view.   low costs high gain.

Thanks.
59#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-26 19:16:32 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,


opa 2604 is better that 5532 (JRC) (Japan radio company) very much.

opa 2604 all ranges are better. sound like tube.

price 2604 is HK$25 to HK$30 second hand
        5532 is HK$5 brand new.

thanks for sharing.
60#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-27 12:48:39 | 顯示全部樓層
hi windwss,

You say have noise when you on th cdp, it may the the problem on black colour Boxs which close to RCA outop. it may fixed not well or burn.

upgrade may replace all flim caps to ERO MKP 1845 claer sound and lower costs. result quit good.
if no costs problem you may replace m-cap (Supreme silive iol), muiltcap (RTX), jensen (copper foil) and Muscia cap. subject your tasts.
costs around HK$600 to HK$1000.

opa can changed to 2604, lt1057, opa2134, opa 2111, ad827, dy2000 pastic package
cost around between HK$25 to HK$100 each.

thanks.
61#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-27 15:00:45 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,
Vishay ROE MKP1845 n ERO MKP 1845 are the same technology.
ROE famous on ecap.
ERO famous on film cap. (GREEN COLOUR and BULE COLOUR)

What colour and style on ROR film cap (box style) ???????
reference web site :
http://www.tubefan.com.tw/capacitor-2.htm.


thanks.
62#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-27 15:03:28 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,
reference web site.

http://tubefan.com.tw
63#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-27 16:28:54 | 顯示全部樓層
hi windwss,

Is this cap:

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64#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-27 16:30:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

what is you country's votalge????
if 110v no problem.
if 230v, i suggect at least 400v will be safe.


thanks.
65#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-27 18:42:35 | 顯示全部樓層
hi windwss,

I suggest use at least over 20% of your country's voltage.
I agreed superwhite said his resistor (ceramic resistor) to KIWAME Carbon
2W is good and cheap.
Diy not = high costs. just what sound you want base on costs.
so many brand of caps. you can try each by each. just diy fun.


Thanks for sharing.
66#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-27 18:47:38 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

Vishay MKP 1845 cap have two styles (box and tank)
have green and blue, same of ERO MKP 1845 cap. beacuse ERO is belong Vishay BHC = philip compamy.


Thanks.
67#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-27 18:59:58 | 顯示全部樓層
hi superwhite,

I have no experience on TANTALUM ecap. so no comment on it, but i found that many expensive cdp use it.
I have one dac, it use some on ditigal part. I think it is suitable on digital part.

thanks.
68#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-27 23:33:21 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

os-con is ok la !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Black gate very expenvise.
be-care the de-solding and solding.

Thanks.
69#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-30 12:25:40 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

I read it over, I think can replace flim cap to 10u/f with 0.1uf.
E.g ero MKT 10uf, ero MKT 0.1uf green colour. good sound lower costs. I used it in my cheap DAC china Lite DAC-AH Modificed. Very good sound for all range
      Plilip e-cap 100uf (blue colour) with 0.1uf flim cap (M-cap) good sound high costs. This recomment by expert in hk.
      SCR solen 10uf with wima black 0.1uf lower costs quit good sound or         0.1uf audio cap (very expenvise)  very good sound (golden )  This recomment by china expert and oversea.
Now it is used elna slim e-cap is ok la..... or  you can add 0.1uf flim cap for high notes.

becare and check the curisit first.

Thank you for sharing.
70#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-30 15:56:56 | 顯示全部樓層
hi windwss,
Some expert sd elna cannot parallel with Wima cap.
the sound will become to bright.
I also test it in my diy pockect amp,  that is correct, too bright, focus not good.

Thanks.
71#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-30 16:06:34 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

If you want parallel with enla e-cap, try Multi-cap RTX, PPFXS serise,music cap cost around hk$750-100 each.

orERO, RIFA and SPRAGUE VITAMINQ flim cap both good.

I think modifity this part HK$200 is ok!!!!!!!!!  good sound result (resonable).


thanks for sharing.
72#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-10-30 16:16:03 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

other cap you can try as:
1. Janzten MKP 0.1/uf just HK$12 each made by Denmark.
2. Taiwan UCC flim cap SPP type 0.1uf/630v just around HK$12.00 each,
    70%-80% = MultiCap. I also use it in my cheap DAC result is good.

can get the information from this web site:

http://www.jantzen-audio.com/
http://www.hifi-fitter.com

hope to help you and sharing.
thanks.
73#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-1 15:46:07 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

The 0.1/uf look like can fix on "marked B" but be sure the + - of silim e-cap at the back of PCB broad.

0.1/fu in my view is better than small uf. because in my experience, 0.01/uf
will made the sound not match very well.

Roe e-cap golden colour is sweet and warm sound suitable for tube cdp.
same as Ero you say.
mallory (black colour) more powerful good for bass.  siemens GPF  sweet and warm sound if made in china not good.  
So I will try Roe Golden colour.

Thanks
74#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-1 22:43:39 | 顯示全部樓層
hi windwss and superwhite,

hop enjoy your modification.

Please send the mod photo for sharing.

Thanks.
75#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-2 13:31:38 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

You say both resistors are very hot, this is show that the W of it will not matched. You can try 5w or  measure the resistor by meter.
That is important, because if it is over load, it will be burn.
becare.

Thanks
76#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-2 14:09:02 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

If you want clear, you can take the old one to the diy shop to make enquiry.
If the value of the old resister and new resister also the same, it will be found that have some problem in you cdp (power supply).

Thanks for sharing.
77#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-2 22:08:12 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

It dosen't matter. I enjoy to sharing to diy friends.
I have not  idea william sir carry the RIKEN RMG resistor or not but you can ask him. 1/2w in HK cost around $10 to $15 each.

Hi windwss,

I have try parallel some caps in outup like you say.
they will made the foucs of sound not good.
I really recomment that If you used famous cap e.g Jensen, Mitil cap, Music cap, Ero, audiocap, rel-cap etc. no need to parallel other small caps. (wast money no gain).
If you used solen (lower speed caps) just parallel 0.1uf is very great.

You can try for diy fun. and let me the result.
Thanks.
78#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-3 15:56:02 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

Today i brought black agte non-polora caps (Red colour) king of black gate to replace the black gate stardand caps behind of the tube of MHZS CD33.

The result is improve much.
I strongly to recomment you to replace it.

Thanks.
79#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-3 17:10:20 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

10uf/50v is ok for it. No problem.

Thanks.
80#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-3 17:13:53 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

improve  in detail and 3d.
81#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-3 22:12:05 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

I agreed with you.
go ahead !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks.
82#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-4 10:01:46 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

wish you mod will be success.
I think you modified MHZS CD33 will win more with your friend's cdp.

I wouild like to know have  you get the OPA 627.
I suggect you replace the two caps behind the tube to Black gate Non polar
e-cap 10uf/50v (red colour). at that time, it must win others much !!!!!!!!!!
Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please let me know the result of competition and send the photos for sharing.

Thanks.
83#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-4 16:00:10 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

I will send the pic to you later, because I am in office.

MHZS CD33 sound is better your friends' base no no modification. If their cdp are under HK$5,000.
becuase I have listened the said CDP's  before I brought CD33.
the sound of Your cdp up to now = HK$7,000.00.
If got the opa 627 same of the said photo. the sound = HK$13,000.00's cdp.

Thanks.
84#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-4 16:42:53 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

It is very easy to mod with opa627.
1. de-solder the OPA2604 from the pcb broad.
2. add IC base or direct to solder the OPA627 set on the PCB broad.

2 is better than 1, but 1 is convience for replace other opa. e.g AD797, OPA134, OPA111 OPA128 etc.

quick quick to modifity it  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If mod, the different is = you buy a cpd for the sum HK$15,000.

I wait hearing from you the result of mod is same as I said.

Thanks for sharing.

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85#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-4 17:20:34 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

Any opa (singale channel) in  audio shop of you place, may let me know to sharing.


Thanks.
86#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-4 18:24:10 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

If you want got opa627 and its base with black gate 0.1uf early you can buy it
from HK. the web sit :

e.g. http://vocativeaudio.com/

opa 627ap HK$65 each
      627bp HK$75 each
      627am hk$130 each
IC base  HK$10 each

e.g.http://www.diykits.com.hk/

Thanks.
87#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-4 20:46:53 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

My final modified MHZS CD33 photo is enclosed.

Thanks.
88#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-4 21:02:57 | 顯示全部樓層
hi superwhite,

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/viewer_2006/P1010010.jpg
89#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-4 21:49:46 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi h3d,
you say you have a electrical drawing, would you mind to post it for sharing.

Thank you so much.
90#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-4 22:53:53 | 顯示全部樓層
hi superwhite,

very nice. sound must very good now.


thanks
91#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-5 07:41:22 | 顯示全部樓層
hi superwhite,

I think that is the opq2604 problem, because bass of 2604 is not clear.
when replace to opq627 will be ok !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks.
92#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-5 17:57:48 | 顯示全部樓層
hi superwhite,

all e-cap have extral 10% to 15% votlage. So it is no problem.
so the pcb broad is marked 10uf/50v.
Is it really 52.8v.


Thanks.
93#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-6 15:37:20 | 顯示全部樓層
hi windwss,

normally, e-cp has +- 20% of value so 2300uf replace is no problem.
don't replace a double value of original e-cap.


thanks.
94#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-6 20:49:50 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

For nichicon ecap, muse and kz is for audio.
Top is KZ second is muse.


Thanks.
95#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-8 11:16:14 | 顯示全部樓層
hi windwss,

Blackgate N series non polarization ecap will it better than (SCR solen +0.1 wima black box)? since the cost is similar....

upto your taste.
scr solen + wima high notes and speed will better.
Blackgate will be powful.


I think use same value of original will be save.

Thanks.
96#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-8 11:51:01 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi windwss,

you can changed to SCR solen 2.2uf/400v or 2.2 uf/630v
costs around $50 each in hk.
SCR solen 70% = Mitil-cap ppfxs
because both material is tin foil.

SCR solen low costs high gain.

Thanks.
97#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-8 23:49:51 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

good news, i will waiting your good news on opa627 la!!!!!!!!!!!!!


thanks.
98#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-9 17:44:16 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

good looking.

you will found that you cdp have 30% sound stage improvment, when you installed it.

Hope to hearing from you soon.

Thanks.
99#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-9 17:51:50 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

I have one thing to remind you, when you install it in you dcp you must make sure that the direction of opa.


Thanks.
100#
 樓主| viewer 發表於 2006-11-9 18:40:29 | 顯示全部樓層
Hi superwhite,

I try WE396a aldy from my fried. I feel it very warm sound (tube sound) a little bit slow. like a ox wine.

But ,I am like GW5679w Jan more . very clear and detail. Like red wine.
may be later to change.


Thanks.
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